I hosted a 90-minute live broadcast of the Restaurants Grow Podcast from the floor of the 2025 National Restaurant Association Show —streamed on LinkedIn, YouTube, and now available as an audio podcast here. Video reply here.
I invited a group of restaurant operators, tech leaders, and marketers to sit down for quick interviews and answer the same set of questions about the show, the state of the industry, and where we’re headed.
The conversations were fast, real, and packed with insights.
I asked each guest the same six questions:
What was the best bite you had at the show?
What’s the top priority for operators this year?
What inspired you walking the show floor?
What’s your trade show survival tip?
How do you drive repeat visits from guests?
Why did you choose to attend?
Here are the biggest takeaways:
TOP PRIORITY FOR OPERATORS
Shawn Walchef (Cali BBQ): "We have to schedule our team members when they say they can work. That's empathy. That's leadership."
Julie Zucker (Branded Hospitality ): "We need to stop treating hospitality like a side hustle. If we want loyalty from our teams, we have to invest in building real careers."
Zino Carr (Garden Catering): "Simplifying tech stacks only matters if it solves a real problem for the operator."
Pete Riggs (Pita Pit):"Even if you're running good product and service, it’s not enough anymore. Most guests don’t leave because of a bad experience—they just forget to come back. Awareness is everything."
Abhinav Kapur (Bikky): "Doubling down on retention efforts. Whatever levers or tools you need to make that happen—use them."
Tyree Riggs (Pita Pit): "Perfecting operations."
Allie Haskell (CBS Northstar): "Operational excellence."
Rev’s Take: Whether it's team, tech, or training—the theme is clarity. The most effective operators I work with know exactly what their biggest problem is and are focused on solving it systemically, not just with band-aids.
HOW TO DRIVE REPEAT VISITS
Eric Knott (Tiki Taco): "If you're not spending time in your restaurants, you can't expect your team to be engaged. Leadership needs to be visible."
Zack Oates (Ovation): "If you’re not getting guest feedback after every transaction, you’re flying blind."
Julie Zucker: "Loyalty is more than points. It’s emotional. Make people feel seen and they'll come back."
Matthew Hardoon (Sauce): "You can't drive retention if you don't own the guest relationship. First-party ordering has to be the foundation."
Pete Riggs (Pita Pit):"You’ve got to keep things fresh—new, exciting, engaging. Keep reminding guests why they love you and reward the ones who keep showing up. Build real relationships, not just transactions."
🥪 Deric Rosenbaum (Groucho's Deli ): "Understand guest lifecycles and use automations to bring them back. One of our top performers? We send a no-offer email that just says: we love you, we miss you, can’t wait to see you again soon."
Rev’s Take: Real talk: most brands still don’t have a proper retention system. If you can’t reach your guests directly, you don’t have a guest—you have a ghost.
INSPIRATION FROM THE FLOOR
Avi Goren: "What inspired me was the shift back to hospitality. After all the tech hype, people are craving human interaction—eye contact, warmth, service."
Julie Zucker: "Spinning with the LEAD crew and raising $20,000 to support hospitality career development—that’s what it’s all about."
Eric Knott(TikiTaco): "Seeing operators getting back to scratch cooking and house-made food—authenticity matters more than ever."
Rev’s Take: The energy on the floor felt different this year. More curiosity. More creativity. Less chest-pounding. More “how do we build better?”
TRADE SHOW SURVIVAL TIPS
Shawn P. Walchef (Cali BBQ Media): "Say yes to water. Always take the photo. You may not get another chance."
Julie Zucker: "Uber your own food, bring your own granola, and pack dish soap for your water bottle. Also, hydrate—hydrate—hydrate."
Avi Goren: "My move? Turkey Chomps, wipes, and backup snacks in my bag. You never know."
Zino Carr: "Rev’s trade show survival guide is undefeated. That Instacart tip? Clutch."
Abhinav Kapur (Bikky): "Dr. Scholl’s inserts. You go from 5,000 steps a day at home to 20,000 on the floor. And if you need help falling asleep, look up ‘The Taurus Express’ on Calm."
Rev’s Take: Here’s my move: the second I check into my hotel, I hit Instacart. Case of water, cold brew, coconut water, and anything else I don’t want to lug in my carry-on. Makes mornings smoother, keeps me hydrated, and saves me from $6 bottles at the hotel shop. Prep like a pro. Hydrate like a beast. Take the ussie.
WHY THEY SHOWED UP
Julie Zucker (Branded Hospitality) : "Every major project I’ve worked on started at a show like this. You come for the panels—you stay for the hallway convos."
Zino Carr (Garden Catering) : "I come to reconnect, recharge, and refocus. The right conversation at the right time can change everything."
Eric Knott: "There’s a different kind of energy when you’re in the same room with people who actually get it."
Tyree Riggs (Pita Pit) : "We wanted to spend real time with our tech partners. A sit-down here does more than 100 emails."
Andrew Ursprung (Tillster): "It’s the largest restaurant show of the year. You get to see everyone, make new connections, and get a look at what’s coming around the corner."
Deric Rosenbaum (Groucho’s Deli): "All our vendors and partners are here. We can knock out 10 convos in a day, spark new ideas, and make real decisions that move the business."
Allie Haskell🎩 (CBS NorthStar): "I came for partnerships. This was the best way I could support our partners—by showing up and helping amplify their voice."
Rev’s Take: There’s magic in the hallways at these shows. Every major opportunity I’ve had in the last 5 years started with an in-person convo at a trade show.
BONUS: BEST BITES
Deric Rosenbaum: Tater kegs and Roman-style pizza
Abhinav Kapur: Roman-style pizza and a surprisingly legit non-meat hard-boiled egg
Andrew Urpsung: Dippin’ Dots, a classic Chicago dog, and Garrett’s popcorn from the airport
Tyree Riggs: Hot sauce from Green Belly and a soda from the same vendor
Shawn Walchef: Build-your-own avocado toast from Avocados from Mexico
Julie Zucker: Coke Slushie and dreams of Oatly Soft Serve
Avi Goren & Zino Carr: Philly Cheesesteak Gyro at Kronos (mentioned 3x)
Matt Hardoon: Mini pretzel dogs with yellow mustard
Rev’s Take: I recommend grabbing a couple colleagues or teammates and going on a 30–60 minute food crawl every day you’re there. It’s fun, it’s tasty, and you’ll get a sense of what’s trending in menu innovation!
If you’re a restaurant brand trying to grow, or a tech company trying to build trust with operators—this is what matters.
Do you need help with any of this? Send me an email [email protected]
- Rev Ciancio
WHAT DOES REV DO? I help restaurants to build guest marketing programs. I help hospitality tech companies with lead generation and content marketing.